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Problems/Questions with DNC from Cybelec ? Click Here

Hi everyone,

if someone have problems or questions to DNC controler from the manufactor CYBELEC, you can write here your request. i have experience with many types of the controler (DNC10, DNC30, DNC60, DNC70/7000, DNC80/800, DNC90/900/9000, DNC1200) in connection with press brake machines (EHT, Beyeler, Weinbrenner, GWF, Lotze, Mengele, Baykal, etc...).

well, i will check this thread every week and try to answer your requests as soon as possible.

please write in english, thank you !

best regards,

MB

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Thank author of this post/comment"DNC 900 "

We turn the power on . machine boots but all the buttons on the controller do not appear to work at all. Turn the machine on an off several times. Finally the buttons work.. Is this the Control panel or the card that runs it?

Thank author of this post/comment"DNC 900 "

Does anyone know what D-Sub Analog Power Saver Mode is ?

Thank author of this post/comment"RTS 63/1200"

Hello,

I have a problem with an old Beyeler machine RTS63/1200.

It is with Cybelec control DNC-7000. It has a problem with initialization and it is not possible to access parameter pages 8, 9, 10. Do somebody have a software for this type of control and any idea how it has to be installed?

Or may be at least some manual in English?

Any help will be highly appreciated.

Thank author of this post/comment"EURO IV/DNC 70 PSG problem"

Trying to help a friend on a mission impossible - without schematics it really is:

When your EURO4/DNC70 PSG controller only shows video information when started in keyposition 3, what should one start looking for?

The beast has blank screen when started in other keypositions - but when started in pos.3 it reacts on the L, P, N, C and main menu buttons, but further actions are mostly rejected - message:"Ignored" or no response...

We are allowed to choose local language and some other options, but the use of the machinery is still quite limited. The initialization procedure described in the user manual did not help. Backup battery holds 3V, the other static RAM replaced, ..

Hope somebody with repair experience on this unit will give a helping hand. Schematics and functional descriptions of system is too much to hope for, I guess ...

The controller works with a Beyeler press brake.

Best regards

nielsr

Reply #58

Strumica - MKD
Thank author of this post/comment"need help old beyeler rt63x1200 with 7300PSSGY"

The machine parameters are lost.

1 How do I enter the menu without the key for the key lock( to put it on position 3 - machine initialization ). There are 4 contact on the back of the key lock with 2 diodes anodes connected togeather and 3 wires connected to the rest of the contacts.

2 There is exactly same working machine in the neighbourhude so I can read all the necesary parametars is this OK.

3 Can You send me the initialization procedure in English - please

Thank author of this post/comment"Cybelec DNC 10"

Can you inform me whether it has a backup battery or not, and if so where is it placed and shall it be changed with the main power on or off?

Thank you, Bent

Thank author of this post/comment"Access to CNC logics/codes"

Hi MB,

I'm pretty new to CNC. We own a Durma press brake machine with cybelec Cybelec S-CNC-CA04PSE2 controller and ModEva10S as display panel. Currently we facing intermittent problem with vertical axis (Y-axis)movement. After some diagnosis we notice that during auto mode the controller not supplying voltage to proportional valve. But no problem with manual mode. To futher analyze the situation we need to access to the CNC logics, I believe this will help to see what condition stopping the vertical axis. Could you advice how actually we can view the logics?

Thank author of this post/comment"CYBELEC DNC 10 EDWARDS PEARSON GUILLOTINE"

Currently own an 'Edwards Pearson guillotine' which has a cybelec DNC 10 system. when turned on it shows '24v end' [where it normally shows modify] the foot pressel was damaged, could this be anything to do with it??as a safety feature. the machine cannot be used and both lights on the stop and on buttons are on.

thanks.

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Thank author of this post/comment"Setting up a Beyeler RT124 with CNC7300PS ctrl"

MB.

We brought to Dominican Republic a Beyeler with CNC7300PS.

in the time of transportation the battery ran out then we have to introduce the parameters, now the controller boots ok, when we press the green start button I feel the noise on the valve but the beam is not moving at all. I dont know is is a wrong parameter or if is some mechanical problem. what do you think?

Reply #64

Auckland New Zealand
Thank author of this post/comment""Problems with controller and backstop ""

I had a simular problem with the X and R axis osalating and found the problem was due to mechinical binding of the R axis drive train, I belive that due to this binding was causing additional load on the power transformer suppling the DNC Drive Cards and causing a momentaraly shutdown of the drives, then due to no load on the transformer the voltage again becomes stable and the drive attempts to start again causing the transformer to overload again, the problem will repeat several times until the cause is fixed.

With the power off test how hard it is to turn, if it is hard to turn then that is the problem

Best Regards

Joe

Thank author of this post/comment"dnc 90/900"

after trying every parameter in the machine we replaced the controls with a new modeva 880s.. machine still just when i take my foot off the down pedal..

guessing its still the pressure differential in the valves..which were changed to proportianal valves ..

and also still have to sets of controls for the machine looking to part with..

two controls cybelec dnc 90/900 with extra boards and one with working monitor and track ball.. motoarmour@gmail.com

thanks for all the help here hope someone could use these spares.. the are collecting dust..

Thank author of this post/comment"dnc900"

Hi.

Can you tell me how ro initialize the machine? it's a weinbrenner with dnc900.

Also i get an error when i go to "bend numerical" and try to bend - the error is "negative face lenght".

Thank you.

Thank author of this post/comment" gasparini poa 160"

i have a problem in dnc 60 .when enter the value of y, x, r in sequance page and select mode to work the axis not move to the entered value and start button led always light and no message error appears in top right of screen , i don't know if the parameters changed or some thing wrong, please help me .your quick response will be highly appreciated
Thank author of this post/comment"gasparini poa 120,160,200"

i am new maint engineer in a factory have pending machine and its new field for me, the machine we have are gasparini poa 120, 160, 200. all of them used cybelec dnc 60. they have many problem in program and parameter and i cant deal with them because i need more details about how to made a program or get a pick up . the problem i face now with machine gasparini poa 160 is not work , when enter value to x, r y axis they some time axis are not respond and message ERROR appears on the top right of screen, some time axis not respond to the entered value , start button led always light and machine not work .i don't know reasons of this big problem and how can i deal with the program?(change parameter, add new program, restore program). please help me and your quick response will be highly appreciated

best regards

Thank author of this post/comment"DNC bios problem"

hello,

I have a problem with DNC with CPU1202 board,

in the bios I set the value of the memory video to "None", after restarting the ModEva console longer displays anything, I connect a VGA screen on the vga mainbord connector, but nothing displayed.

if you can help me solve this problem.

I try to remove the battrie located on the motherboard during 12 hours but without result.

thank you for your help.

i have the Motherboard type: Cybelec CPU1202-board (LX800 processor or VE400) with XP Embedded

Reply #70
03/13/13 17:42
Germany
Thank author of this post/comment"answer"

dear bahaa,

sorry for the long issue, but i was really busy in the last months.

1. you already have the problems ?

2. if yes, please tell me what type of pressbrake you have... servovalve controled machine or torsion pressbrake

3. the machine do the preset operation without problems ?

4. check the input for external 24 V !

hello simo,

also sorry for the long issue...

ok i understand your problem, i will ask to get some informations to help you... i'll give a answer in the next days...

MB

Reply #71
03/13/13 17:52
Germany
Thank author of this post/comment"answer 2"

hi Liviu Weebs,

i should tell you to initialite the machine ?! OK

1. turn machine on and start the pump

2. if the dnc is boot up, go on automatic mode and press the start button

3. the ram goes up and the stops drive to their preset points

4. if the preset is finshed, the red led in the green start button goes off, of this not the case, we have a problem...

5. press the green start again and the axes will move to their programmed postions, after that you can bend

your problem : its sounds like the product is not programmed finished or has some incorrect values...

check this in that you go the page "product numeric"... here you will see a table with the values for your piece you wanna bend... check this values if they are correct or delete the whole values and program your piece in "bend numerical"...

thats all for now...

MB

Reply #72
03/13/13 18:03
Germany
Thank author of this post/comment"answer 3"

hello sriram,

you say the ram will move in manual mode, but not in automaic mode... pls check with the electric diagramm the circuit for the fast closing part of the ram, normally in that you have some safety conditions in it, like the watch signal for the fast move down valves...

to get acces to machine parameter of the dnc, you must press "ALT" (first and hold it) and then "3"... normally a window will pop up where you must enter the code for this level... this is in standard "333"... xou can check your level, in the right bottom corner of your display... to get acces to the levels press ALT + 1 or 2 or 3... the code is the level three time "111, 222, 333"

thats all for now...

MB

Reply #73
03/13/13 18:20
Germany
Thank author of this post/comment"answer 4"

@psh

i know this problem from other controls... i think the only thing you can do is to reset the dnc...

for this turn the machine off, turn the key switch to position 3 and turn the machine on...

normally you will get a screen where you see a page with lines like "

[_] Zone variable, etc...

and on the bottom you must enter a code...

okay on this page you will delete the whole memory of the dnc, but mostly after this the dnc works fine... before you do this, check if you have a backup from your machine parameters, thats really important, because the problems come from this...

if have this type a "1" in the line [_] zone machine paramters, or something like that, nor sure cause its maybe that the language on this screen isi in french...

then type the code in the line for it : 817

after that turn off the machine and switch it on again... therefore turn the switch key to "1"... if the dnc boots up, turn the switch key on the dnc to 3 and type your backup paramters line for line in... after this you will get normally access to ypur missing pages... if this not the case, maybe we have hardware problem...

thats all for now...

MB

Reply #74
04/04/13 22:24
Cairo
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Thank author of this post/comment"cybelec cnc"

hello MB

My cnc bending machine is "donewell" with "cybelec" control (year 1984)

i want replace its control panel with a new HMI, so I need to know the cybelec "servo switching amplifier" tech. info

thanks

Reply #75
04/07/13 16:08
Germany
Thank author of this post/comment"Answer"

hello ofoq,

for this i need to know what servo amplifier is mounted in your machine... also i need the type from your dnc and the type from ypur servo valves, after that i can send you a pdf file what you need !

thats all !

MB

Reply #76
04/07/13 20:56
Cairo
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Gold Member
Thank author of this post/comment"servo amp"

hello

the servo amplifier is called " servo switching amplifier SVC 206"

no data about DNC type

solenoid

ATOS

DIS 83655

DHS-9-71-9

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ATOS

R2NO-A-0/0/315/6/12

MZOA-122000/24

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AC main motor

15.2A

380V AC delta

1450 RPM

7.5Kw

10PS

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Reply #78
04/17/13 08:59
chesterfield, uk
Thank author of this post/comment"DNC1200 hdd problems"

Hi, we have a DNC 1200 controller that is having hdd issues, it is regularily 'forgetting' programs and settings, which we then need to restore from floppy backup.

Our controller is a

Cybelec V-DNC-1200/B

DNC 1200 PS/B

Does anyone have information regarding the hdd on this, as we need to replace it, i believe it is a solid state drive if this helps

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