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Fadal Programming

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Gary Story

Fadal Programming

Is there a good on line course to learn how to manually program Fadal VMC? I am having problems

with I and J and need help. Can anyone recommend a book or manual.


#1

India
Thank author of this post/commentI have found this link for you. Just have a look at the site, I believe it will help you. The link is : www.eng.fiu.edu/MRC/EMC_Online.htm.

#2

star123

Well there are lots of online site will help you very much but i just found following site which may help you very much.

www.compumachine.com/Support/training/CNC-VMC.pdf


#3

Perkasie, PA
Thank author of this post/commentIt has been a few years for me on the Fadal, but I believe you can use an "R" value instead of I and J. It is smart enough to know where the circle center is and all you need is a + or - to control inside or outside radius.

#4

tom sofia

i have a simple question and i cant find the answer in the operators manual hope some one can help me

if i set my tool lenghts off the table how do i set my zero off the top of the work piece


#5

mehran

i want to know about G an M codes, start and ending program

#6

paul

tom sofia; you must set your tool lengths off the top of the work piece and work from there. your offsets will change with each different part you work on.

Thank author of this post/commentPaul, Tom

I don't work with Fadal however:

If you are going to set your tools off the table as I do. You can then put your part height in the workcoordinates G54-G59 if you have them or in a fixture offset.

Touching off every job in the machine is a complete waste of time. Set up your tools 1 time and leave them.

Stevo


#8

Delhi - INDIA
Thank author of this post/comment"I" is distance & direction of centre of arc from the initial point of arc alog X-axis

"J" is same along Y-axis

Jitendra

09873884593


#9

naval

hi

thanks for suggestion.

naval


#10

tony

"machinist"

Could somebody tell me how to make simple program to mill the hole on different location along the "X" axis using variable "R" value. For some reason it gives me a "Radius error". Tanks!

#11

carlos

"manual"

hola!saludos desde saltillo coahuila mex


Thank author of this post/comment"HELP ENDING FADAL PROGRAM ON A 4020"

hi hope someone can help just started programming on a fadal 4020 and i am having problems at the end of a program . i am experienced programming on haas mazak hurco and general fanuc programming.

i have set tools on a gauge block and used the fixture offset to set workpiece height i have managed to complete a small program and at the end i have done what i normally do at the end of a fanuc program but when it comes to the m30 the machine moves up in z and e stops.

code is

G0 G49Z0.

G53ZO.

M30

I am programming in format 2 if that helps hope someone can

thanks


Thank author of this post/comment"cnc fadal programming"

if anyone needs help programming i can help

"end program of fadal"

end program of fadal is m5

m9

E0 z0

E0 x0y9.

m30


#15

Doug Leon

"Programmer"

Tom,

Although I have Automated the set up and offset maniplulation on a fadal, to the piont I rarely see the offset tables. I still use the method below.

If you do a lot of vise work, here is a trick I teach my customers.

set all tools at vise base. Then your z fixture offset will be the parallel+part thickness.

Example:

parallel=1.000

part=1.000

z fixture offset=2.000


#16

manuel

"cnc programer"

somebady speak spanish i have problems with 658 rotater


#17
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Thank author of this post/comment"I J programming and tool offsets"

I came here looking for one thing and am glad to help on another.

I've had the same trouble as Martin Lawrence with my program endings. The problem seems to be with cancelling the tool offsets. The post out of PowerMill puts this at the end:

G0Z4.4165 (Z safe height)

X0Y0

G28

M5

M9

Z0H0

M2

It performs all commands fine but the Z0H0. It pauses at machine Z0 then tries to move up the tool offset amount.

I think I can help on other comments:

Gary:

I and J are always incremental, even in G90 mode.

Tom Sofia:

The tool offsets are referenced to the machine coordinate system. The fixture offsets are referenced to the tool coordinate system. Once you establish a tool pickup point (tool Z0), enter the distance from there to your fixture height (fixture Z0) in the fixture offset table. There are various ways of doing this. The easiest, but most dangerous, is to SET Z at your tool pickup point then use the utility in the DF page to set the fixture height offset. Dangerous because if you do not SET CS after setting up your fixture, your tool offsets will be referenced from where you SET Z!

Paul:

It's for this reason that our company also picks up every tool with every new job. They were told that was the only way to do it. They never questioned or investigated why, they just took it as bible. I crashed quite a few cutters learning why they did it that way.


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